Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dalcha Lungiambula

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The result was userfy. I'll give it to the first person who jumped on the offer, @Chelyx:. (non-admin closure) ミラ P 05:53, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dalcha Lungiambula

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Subject is a mixed martial arts fighter who has only fought one fight in top tier promotion which fails WP:MMABIO requirement of 3 fights. There is no guarantee to secure 2 more fights in UFC and it will take at least one more year if and only if the fighter secure more 2 fights under UFC which means WP:TOOSOON. Subject also does not pass WP:GNG as sources found and provided are routine sport reports. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 09:06, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 09:06, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 09:06, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Userfy I did a quick search, and found 147 hits on Google and 205 on Google News (many of which were relevant). I am not sure that he meets notability criteria yet. But I do not want to see this article deleted - it would be much better to move it to user-space, where it can be built on over time, and moved back into article space if and when the subject becomes more notable. Toddy1 (talk) 12:10, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Userfy with reserve I agree to the above, but it is quite hard the fighter will have two new top tier fights in the following six months. --Chelyx (talk) 20:43, 8 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. It is not only rare for a fighter to have 2 new fights in 6 months (usually it take one year), we have to considered if the fighter or the opponent pull out of a fight due to injury, surgery, fails to make wait, visa issues, personal issues and fails drug test, medical suspensions after a fight which could take up to 6 months prior allow to compete again which will force the fighter to pull out of the fight and all these incidents are extremely common for it happens all the time. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 01:18, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There are some definite problems with this article. His UFC fight in Russia has not yet happened, but the article says it was in September. I see no evidence he was an ADCC world champion and the article claims he won that title in 2016 although the events are held in odd numbered years. There's no evidence he competed in the 2016 IBJJF world championships and merely competing would not be an indicator of notability (no qualifying is required). At this time I'm not seeing anything to support a claim of WP notability. If someone wants to fix the article in their own workspace, that's fine with me--but it doesn't belong in the main article space of WP (at least not yet). Papaursa (talk) 02:05, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment You can userfy it to my userspace, I will monitor it and fix it accordingly --Chelyx (talk) 16:00, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

He fought earlier today, thus has fought two UFC fights. In my opinion, he should have a Wikipedia page. I'm not an expert on the policies used to determine notability for MMA fighters though. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 20:00, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment He lost the fight via knockout and UFC can release the fighter who lost their last fight if they chose to. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 22:23, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I for once saw him in a Facebook UFC video and was wondering who he was. The fact that he participated in UFC and has a notable knockout (on the receiving end) means he should have a Wikipedia entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.116.237.240 (talk) 05:47, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Wikipedia is not a platform for fans to indicated a subject should have a Wikipedia entry because what they saw on Facebook or TV or etc. but subject needs to pass GNG or WP:MMABIO in this case. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 07:49, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
And surprisingly, Wikipedia is written for such fans. I might be wrong in interpreting though, but no wonder there is more articles on sportspeople, film, music, games and people who play in them rather than scientists. ;)--Biografer (talk) 01:42, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Userfy per above.4meter4 (talk) 19:27, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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